Friday, August 3, 2012

Timeline: Serena Williams

July 3, 2010: Serena Williams win Wimbledon.

July 7, 2010: Williams cuts both of her feet on broken glass at an unnamed restaurant in Munich Germany. The cuts require "18 stitches: six inside the cut on her right foot and six on top of that foot, and six stitches on the bottom of her left foot."

July 8, 2010: Williams goes to Belgium to play an exhibition match against Kim Cljisters.

July 15, 2010: Williams has "surgery to repair a lacerated tendon on the top of her right foot July 15 at the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic in Los Angeles."

October 2010: Second surgery on foot, and spends "10 weeks in a cast and 10 weeks in a walking boot."

February 2011: Williams hospitalized for a pulmonary embolism (blood clot in the lungs).

February 28, 2011: Williams returns to hospital "because of a large hematoma on her stomach. The gathering of blood under the skin grew from a "golf ball" to the size of "a grapefruit."

June 2011: Williams plays at Eastbourne. First tournament since winning Wimbledon 2010; loses in 2nd round. Plays Wimbledon, loses in 4th round.

July 2011: Plays Stanford, wins tournament.

August 2011: Plays Toronto, wins tournament. Plays Cincinnati, wins 1st round then withdraws with "toe injury."

August-September 2011: Plays US Open, loses in final. Does not play another tournament in 2011.

October 26, 2011: Williams retreats to panic room and calls 911 when ITF doping control officer arrives for 6am out-of-competition test. No public comment made by Williams about the incident. ITF anti-doping statistics indicate that zero out-of-competition samples were collected from Williams in 2010 and 2011. No explanation given by ITF or Williams on why no sample was collected during panic room incident.


January 2012: Plays Brisbane, wins 1st and 2nd round then withdraws with left ankle injury. Plays Australian Open, loses in 4th round.

February 2012: Plays Fed Cup, wins both singles matches.

March 2012: Plays Miami, loses in quarterfinals.

April 2012: Plays Charleston, wins tournament. Plays Fed Cup, wins both singles matches.

May 2012: Plays Madrid, wins tournament. Plays Rome, withdraws from semi-finals with back injury. Plays French Open, loses in 1st round.

June-present 2012: Plays Wimbledon, wins tournament. Plays Charleston, wins tournament. Plays Olympics...? Wins gold.

228 comments:

  1. "They went to an emergency room in Munich where Williams said she had X-rays and received 18 stitches: six inside the cut on her right foot and six on top of that foot, and six stitches on the bottom of her left foot. "That one really hurt,"

    First off, what doctor orders x-rays for a cut? MRI? Ok, maybe, but an x-ray? I digress though and give her the benefit of the doubt that she said "x-ray" despite really meaning "MRI."

    If she cut the soles of both feet and received 6 stitches on each sole at the ER that same night is there a doctor in this or any galaxy that would allow her to play a tennis match the next night? High impact less than 24 hours after receiving stitches? Isnt the sole purpose of stitches to artificially close the wound until it can naturally close? And EVEN IF the doctor told her it was ok wouldn't giving her a shot to deaden the pain be the WORST thing in the world? How would she know if she ripped the stitches out and made the cut worse?

    I think it's actually fairly normal to be given crutches with stitches in the bottom of the foot to avoid weight-bearing, let alone high impact. Stitches on both soles would probably require a wheelchair.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_12656_care-stitches.html

    - "Keep your stitches completely dry for the first 24 hours."....unless you're Serena Williams

    = "Avoid hitting or bumping your wound against anything" unless you're Serena Williams


    more here

    http://www.emedicinehealth.com/suture_care/page2_em.htm

    The media really did their job on this one.

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    1. not trying to defend serena here, but i cut my finger really deep with broken glas last year and the doctor ordered an x-ray, just to make sure the tendons were not affected. so an x-ray is nothing unusual in german hospitals. what is unusual, however, is that nobody still knows the name of the obscure restaurant, given the fact, that munich is famous for its good coverage by various yellow press newspapers. i just refuse to believe, this little accident could escape someones attention.

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    2. nestor,

      I accept that and stand corrected. However, a week later in the US she got an MRI. She's a professional athlete with millions of dollars. Why not get both, for God's sakes? The MRI is the preferred method. Was she worried about her health care premiums or her co-pay?

      The gist of my argument is that I find it virtually impossible to believe she cut the bottoms of both feet on glass, got stitches and played tennis the next day. I find it ever more suspicious that the x-ray she claimed to have gotten evidently didn't reveal a tendon tear that was serious enough to require a surgery that was complicated enough that it was botched and required a second surgery due to complications. Would you expect the surgeon she used to botch a minor tendon tear surgery? In one article she claims it wasn't even serious enough to require surgery but she got it anyway. Something that minor being botched by a world-class surgeon? If it was more serious then she actually claimed then it's even more puzzling that it wasn't picked up in Germany. She even claimed in an interview with CBC Sports that she "ended up fainting because I lost so much blood." Either way we're now up to like at least 4 aspects of the story that are one-in-a-million types of incidents stacked on top of each other:

      - how it happened it the first place....talk about bad luck
      - losing enough blood to cause fainting...talk about bad luck
      - how a lacerated tendon wasn't picked up by x-ray...talk about bad luck
      - being allowed to play the next day...talk about either bad luck or pure stupidity
      - electing to have a surgery that wasn't required that got botched by a world-class surgeon...talk about bad luck
      - OR needing a surgery that was complicated enough to be botched by a world-class surgeon....talk about bad luck

      Is it Serena's life or a Farelly brothers movie?

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    3. I got five stitches on my head from falling off my bike and I had to wait ten days to remove the stitches. The main issue with stitches is the risk of an infection. Now I can't imagine someone getting stitches on her plantar area and going to play tennis next day. Please, this makes non sense.

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    4. Yes, with a cut on your head infection is the main issue. That's because you don't use your head run sprints and quickly change directions and jump up and down. That's why we have feet. I'm pretty sure your doctor, after stitching your head, wouldn't have told you to rub the shit out of your stitches with a piece of cloth attached to a half-inch-thick rubber pad with a couple hundred pounds of force for an hour or so the next day.

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    5. Swisscheese40: I can't trust your recollection of memory of the events you listed. But let admit she was lying.... To you since she is lying, she must be doping. That is really to strange to hear these kinds of reasoning.

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    7. Swisscheese40:
      So you are saying that she didn't have surgery and she was wearing a fake cast? Or have you not seen pictures of serena wearing a cast? Even if you assume the cast was fake, do you think the embolysm that results from members being immobile for a long period of time will identify the fake cast from the right one? Why spending so much energy being angry while you can just focus the same energy on improving your level of reasoning.

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    8. People die from embolysm without being athletes. Research embolysm and see the cause of it. It doesn't have anything to do with having an injury on top or below one's foot. But one of its cause could be keeping a leg in a cast for a long period of time. So you misunderstood the cause of embolysm and I have read enough of your postings to expect it

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    9. Moreover EPO is known to increase endurance.Serena tires quicker during the excanges than any other professional on the court. Since you maintain that she dopes, how come she never exhibited the basic benefits of doping which are extremely important to tennis players which are speed and endurance. Everyone knows that if serena can move fast and have endurance, she will not lose a single match for the remaining of her career. So why the drugs don't show the most obvious benefits as far as serena is concerned? Lifting weight and having those huge legs can give her strength. She doesn't need to dope for that.

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    10. Spectacular moderating here...

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  2. The media hahahahaahaha, don't make me laugh....
    Swisscheese has a new theorem I mean Axiom: the new definition of doping is "possibly" lying. I said possibly because therecould be legitimate justifications for all these events that you seem to fail to grab.
    Are you recruiting for the online sect? Why don't they make exception for Serena's picture on the site? That could facilitate the recruiting process, right?
    I am here to help. Feel free to ask for advice

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    1. Mr Ed, c'mon - admit it - you are just hot for Serena. The way you keep going on about her body. Mmm. Personally, I have visions of a hippo in a tutu. Each to their own, I guess ..

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  3. I was going to keep my mouth shut, but watching Eric Ed hang himself with his own noose has been absolutely priceless. As sc40 pointed out, dozens, if not hundreds, of new viewers will flock to this site over the next few days in light of Serena's recent "performances", and thanks to Eric Ed, their curiosity will be even more piqued, and they'll now have years worth of threads containing mountains of evidence supporting Serena's doping at their disposal. Of course, Eric Ed will argue against this till cows fly, but people will see he's a lone ranger, unless of course, some new posters come out of the woodwork to support his arguments (something we haven't seen before, right?) Whatever Eric Ed does this point forward is irrelevant. He can't rewrite the posts that have been presented on this blog over the years. I encourage people to do their homework, and draw their own conclusions

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    1. Devastation is the only qualifier for Serena's run at the Olympics. New believers will join the sect but all they will have to show for is their sectarian attitude.

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  4. On another issue, I think this is so far the worst olympics for Spain since the pre-Barcelona era...

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  5. german commentator: instead of joking about letting serena participate in the male tournament, "the other players should orient their game on serenas, which is based on hard training, of course."

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  6. This gold medal match is a friggin joke. Serena should be playing in the men's tournament but she'd probably beat Federer. In fact the NBC comms were saying she's serving as hard as Federer. I thought the drug testing was supposed to be the toughest ever in this Olympics?

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    1. They say that every Olympics....


      ..... and every Olympics is the same, massive roidfest.

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    2. The perception of greater drug testing is bigger than the actuality. Only the dumb athletes get caught.

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  7. 2 bathroom breaks before the Olympic Final even started! I guess she was sick or maybe having her period?

    Oh well, crushes an in form Sharapova

    HAS THIS BEEN ENOUGH?? I mean the spaniards and others have a lot of protection and are very sneaky.. But Williams is right in the face! Cmon - enough...

    The looks on the faces of the fans was great. basically like "give me a break"

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  8. Hello everyone,

    I don't know what to say. I mean she has to be "juiced". It is complete non-sense.

    Good blog, by the way.

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  9. It's not like this is the first time Williams crushed Sharapova in a major final. Nothing to see here, move on!

    Looking forward to the mixed doubles final tomorrow which will be Williams free.

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    1. "Move on?" I would beg to differ.

      Actually, this final made even more suspicious than ever. It was a pity to watch. I felt almost bad for the people in attendance, what a treat...

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    2. So much pain in the chest... what am i gonna do... please high priest help me....
      hahahhahahahah

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    3. Is everything all right with you, Eric? Perhaps, the accusations have touched a little nerve?

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  10. I have backed the Williams for a long time. Always a big fan of Venus and have been arguing with anyone who says they are dopers as utter nonsense for years. Why would they dope? They are obviously the most talented women players to ever play the game

    But Serena has taken it to an extreme... big surprise

    Even her wimbledon and olympics. I have been saying that this soft squash ball they use here is just perfect for her to control her power. She hasnt served it at 130mph - i have said - so calm down - NOTHING TO SEE....

    She's doing it with accuracy more than power.

    But this olympics her movement is off the charts, and where's all the body fat??? Then go back to last year's US Open when she looked like the HULK. She said she lifted too many weights while she was injured...

    I thought that could be the case since she was off the tennis court for a long time....

    But today - two long bathroom breaks FOR WHAT??? SICK?? PERIOD?? SHE HAD TO PEE FOR A HALF HOUR??

    And if she was sick or super nervous - WHY DIDNT WE SEE IT??

    Beating out of form players or Azarenka who lacks some on natural abilities is one thing

    But killing an in form , great player - starting off with 3 aces in first service game, after 2 long bathroom breaks

    I tried very hard to put my head in the sand on this one - - now Im just disgusted.....

    Well , she's #1 and the public has their hero and now can feel better about their lives when they go to work on Monday - THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT!

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  11. That has to be the most depressing final I have ever seen. I'm really losing my faith in pro tennis. And people always disagree with me when I even suggest that I suspect that Serena must be on something...did they see that match lol? Why are people not asking questions???! any questions???.. at all!!!

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  12. Serena makes the East German women's swim team look anorexic.

    Also, does anyone think Serena was trying to psych Maria out with her bathroom breaks? Cause she didn't seem nervous at all.

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    1. No I will help you out with a much more convenient excuse : She took the bathroom break to dope...hahahaha....I guess you couldn't help the cause of the sect...lol

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  13. LOL did you see what happened during the ceremony with the flag ?

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    1. Or a very discreet, very british expression of opinion on what just took place ? Whatever it was I found it hilarious

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    2. The flag tore away during the american anthem and was taken away by the wind...

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  14. I remember being shocked when Sharapova only won 3 games off Williams in the 2007 Australian final.

    Now Williams is in her 30s and she loses one game to Sharapova. Nothing Williams related shocks me anymore.

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  15. Let's suppose Serena is doped. I don't know of course, but let's say she is. Apparantly she wasn't afraid of the more "stringent" testing in these Olympics?

    And if we believe that, what about Nadal, didn't he withdraw because of that testing? Or was that a silent ban? Or does Serena has a better doctor than Nadal? Or is Nadal injured for real?

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    1. This sounds suspiciously like logic and reason being employed here.

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    3. She's learned over the years there isn't "more stringent testing" at the Olympics and the stuff she uses clears the system in time and doesn't require re-fills during a week of competition.

      Nadal, on the other hand, would embarrass his entire country if he were to test positive in the Olympics and the stuff he uses requires more "maintenance" and a surprise advancement in testing is more possible to catch him. He already has one gold and wasn't about to risk his future no matter how remote the possibility.

      Serena's power negates the necessity to use endurance drugs. She was afraid of getting caught 8 years ago, but not anymore. Plus I heard she had a panic room built in the Olympic Village "just in case."

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    4. How do you know "the stuff" Rafa uses "requires more maintenance" than "the stuff" Serena uses?

      Insider info?

      Or are you flailing around to try to fill the holes that the comment above pointed out...

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  16. Check out these tweets about Serena:

    @23GI33: Serena Williams is the 1st woman to win all four Grand Slams and a gold medal in both singles AND doubles. First woman on steroids"

    @KristenKooster
    Serena Williams has to be on steroids.. #killedit

    @unimpresssed
    serena williams is a sassy raven symone on steroids

    @jager_kukowski
    Serena is the Brittney Griner of tennis.. #BothMen #steroids

    ‏@luke_3000
    Serena Williams is one scary woman. Reminds me of Grace Jones in Conan, but on steroids. #tennis #Olymics2012

    ‏@akittels
    Serena is definitely on steroids

    57m littleranran ‏@littleranran
    Has anyone tested Serena Williams for steroids? Every part of her body is bigger than a man's...and I mean EVERYTHING!

    ‏@jibbz007
    Yh, Serena is playing like she's on steroids. @onyeka_ononye

    @JovianoElan
    I don't know what America has been feeding Serena Williams with but she is too damn strong! Is she on steroids??

    @bcahill02
    Serena Williams clearly does steroids and claims that her religion prohibits her from getting tested. She is a disgrace to this country.
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    ‏@alexkylerock
    I wouldn't be surprised if Serena was on steroids.

    ‏@mkast2264
    Serena Williams...steroids much???

    And this is just a sample.

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    1. That is encouraging. However I ask one question on a message board, "what do people think of her never getting tested after the panic room incident" and everybody ignored it, only one person responded with only a personal attack, which I wouldn't even want to repeat. There still seems to be way more blinded people out there IMO, which I guess is why people like her are still allowed to be playing in wta/atp! But tweets like that are still a good sign of the spectators questioning what's likely to be going on, nonetheless!!!

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    2. Indeed. Even if she doesn't get caught, at least her reputation can take a knock from responses like this.

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    3. There is only two ways for hardcore or even casual tennis fans to open their eyes about what the game is now all about: i) a major player is caught during a test. As we all know, this is unlikely to happen. Or ii), tennis has a "Tom Simpson" episode and a major player dies during a tournament, on TV....

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    4. Those are hilarious tweets.

      It's a joke of course and the media refuses to question how a woman with so many alleged health problems as Serena can crush the field as she does. Serena actually looks more muscular than she did in her 2002-2003 days. And once again the media doesn't question how an athlete gets stronger as she gets older.

      It's like Carmelita Jeter who at 32 is running times in track & field that she didn't run ten years ago. She wad actually lapping the field in the 100m prelims yestetday.

      It's like the cyclist who just won the cycling gold medal, who served a two year doping ban a few years ago. He's not being questioned by the mainstream media either.

      I actually think the perception that Olympic testing is strong is incorrect. As Dick Pound and othets have said, only the dumb athletes dope during the event. The smart athletes or the ones with the better coaching dope a week or two before the event. Only the dumb or less connected athletes will be caught doping these (or any other) Olympics.

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    5. Sorry that should be ''was'' in paragraph 3 and ''others'' in paragraph 4. Damn iPhone lol

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    6. Seeya, you could get stronger as you get older when you gain weight and lift more weight. Serena has become bigger. These are the arguments of novice that make some of us wonder if most of the people accusing serena of doping have ever played any sports.

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    7. Those aren't proofs. Any more than if I said "She DOESN'T look like she's on steroids" is proof that she isn't on steroids...

      Most people aren't experts on performance enhancing drugs and the signs they have on the body. Thinking someone looks too bulked up to be real is kind of a crude, oldfashioned way of gues

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    8. ssing, but it's not proof.

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    9. @bcahill02
      "Serena Williams clearly does steroids and claims that her religion prohibits her from getting tested. She is a disgrace to this country."

      Now, that is very interesting. Was that the excuse she used to wiggle out of the panic room fiasco and to pre-empt any future testing?

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    10. Did she really say that? The religion thing?

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    11. Tavi.... These are people who make their own facts to back up their illusions. Don't take them seriously

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  17. This isn't Serena related but Nadal related. Here is an article on Tennis.com's Racquet Reaction about the Federer/Del Potro SF and the comments after inevitably turned into a free-for-all with readers attacking the top tennis players at will. Obviously no editing going on here folks. Read some of the comments, especially one at 5:23 a.m. by someone named Robert. I could copy it here but I'll leave it to THASP to decide if it's merited.

    http://blogs.tennis.com/racquet_reaction/2012/08/olympics-federer-d-del-potro-/comments/page/2/#comments

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    2. Lopi

      Thanks for the link. The comments were basically silly. But the comment by Robert is interesting. I almost bypassed it , but then read it. I know someone who worked for the same company he's claiming to have worked for. I was told a lot of the same info he shared

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    3. Where there is testing, there is hope!

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    4. Thanks for that link. VERY interesting post.

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    5. Robet's post:

      "msf and other nadal fans -
      Before nadal is done at 30 , I bet you here that like Alegerian weightlifters , east german athletes and greek high jumpers and Marion Jones herself , a perennial cheat )who withdrew from WeltKlausse League to avoid a more rigorous testing) he will be get a life ban and all his titles will be revoked. Very very likely.
      Even if Nadal may not get caught but there will certainly be a Floyd Landis like character in spanish athletic community who will out him. You better start praying that this is not the case. EPOs and pharmaceutical HBOC and PFC testing is still not mature but this can be performed on blood samples and in some case urine samples from years ago. I worked for Almirall for nearly 8 years until 2008 and in Operacion Puerto , several top athletes got flagged by tests which was later thrown out as inadmissible by spanish ministry of sports. Let me just say this...Alberto Contador's sports doctor is also the doctor for Nadal. It took 5 years for Jose Ignacio to finally admit Spain athletes have a doping problem and too recently after insistence from WADA. But from my work and experience with Almirall and Spains Anti doping agency in 2006 during Operacion Puerto , I can tell you this. I will be surprised if Nadal escapes without getting caught. Epicondylitis and Tendinitis are problems arising out of EPO use (but more because of the compound they injest to flush them out of the system before tournaments). With new drug testing law in Spain requiring random , zero notification tests (currently the athletes are given 36 hours notice and EPO flush takes about 6 hours to cleanse the system), I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal retires. Also Verdasco and Fuentes might be candidates as well although Verdasco has been clean for nearly two years according to one insider that I'm still in touch with.

      For those fooling yourself that Nadal is being tested , two words ...Marion Jones. When the tests for EPOs, HBOC's and PFC become mature , watch out for plummeting athletic performance worldwide.

      PS: of the 77 athletes whose name was given to Ministry of sports in spain in 2006 , three were tennis players...Lourdes Dominguez Lino, Rafa Nadal and Verdasco."

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    6. Oops that should be Robert.

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    7. I'd like to know how tendinitis is caused by the drugs themselves!

      While I'm sure you could make a case that he could develop it indirectly due to having drug-induced excessive stamina that let him practice more than his knees would have liked...you could also come up with non drug related reasons for his practicing stupidity.

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    8. I hope Robert is right. Very interesting comments he made - thank you Lopi for the link and thank you Jenny for posting the actual comment.

      The more mature tests Robert is talking about can't come soon enough. The fact that he named not only Nadal but Verdasco and Dominiguez Lino I think add to his credibility.

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  18. This blog has become a pain reliever for most of Serena's haters, which is quite a good thing considering how pitiful she made her opponents look. I don't envy those who hate serena because it helps me avoid a good dosage of pain. I think the website should charge for the free help it is offering its sectarian members

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  19. Feels like McDonald's is a legitimate sponsor at the games. After all, a lot of athletes look like they're benifiting from a good dose of BigMac sauce.

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  20. As far as Serena goes, there is absolutely 0 doubt that she's either doping or at least as something serious to hide.

    If I was a clean athlete and facing all these accusations, I would NOT run away to my panic room when time came to be tested. I would not invent bullshit cover up stories. Her getting ''cut'' ion Germany is about just as valid as Contador's contaminated meat argument.

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    1. your limited ability to sort out your own thoughts is the reason that makes you think that serena dopes. Does the cut in Germany related to a positive doping test. If not, why that comparison?

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    1. and reward the cheats? No way!

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    2. Doping must not be legalize because it would mean that in order to be competitive you'll will have to risk your life. That isn't fair, sport makes you healthier. Think of all teenagers in the clubs who train hard to become one day a pro, in order to make not only their dreams come true but also that tennis is what will give them finalcial support to pay the bills they will have put in risk their lifes, sorry but I don't share that idea.

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    3. Plus it would solve exactly anything, unless every athletes has access to the same products, which is very unlikely....

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  22. I'm gonna throw in another bone here regarding Nadal and doping. Remember 2009 and Nadal's pretty weak performance from RG and on?

    One thing that was suggested among the "pundits" then was that Nadal should lose weight to lessen the stress on the knees. A lot of guys also noticed that Nadal seemed smaller (and that his groundstrokes and speed) didn't have the same power as earlier.

    Nadal himself denied that. He claimed that "I have the same weight than last year. I weigh the same five years ago. I didn't change."

    Now, the problem with that is that Nadal WAS visible a lot smaller during the fall 2009. Swedish tennis pro (doubles) Robert Lindstedt wrote this in September 2009:

    "Noticed Nadal in the locker room yesterday. How small he has become! ... compared to earlier this year and the years before when he was big as a house. He has slimmed down considerably, I must say."

    Go figure...

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  23. On Tennis.com Steve Tignor posted an article about Serena and the Bryan brothers winning gold. One quote about Serena "We’ve seen Williams at her best many times, but she’s never played quite like this." And yet he didn't think there was anything suspicious about her results.

    Link to article: http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/08/old-glory.html

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    1. Tignor's not calling her out because he knows they all use, especially Sharapova. If you really look at technical play, the most gifted players in the top 10 are Serena, Azarenka and Radwanska. They can use dropshots and slice quite well. They have good volleying games and are adept at defense.

      The screamer and ball basher of the century is Sharapova. Absolutely no volleying game or even an overhead smash!

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    2. She has shoulder problems.

      Bolu, you use the same arguments as Eric Ed, which points in the direction of you being the same person, or at least colleagues.

      Same all arguments all over. It's never the doper who is playing well, it's always the opponent's fault (Sharapova, Federer, or losers like that) - either they can't play tennis, or they just are not good enough mentally, they just chickened out on crucial points, so no wonder they lost. Of course, that line of reasoning is pure crap.

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    3. Plus of course, those losers are on top of it the biggest dopers in the game :)

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    4. people like you say...if Serena or Nadal do not win, it's because they're off the dope...if they win they are on the dope. Well she didn't win AO neither did she win FO. Wasn't she meant to be doping for the grand slam matches according to your theories?

      I'm not saying she doesn't dope, but you haven't done any research yourself to show she does. All we have to do is encourage Sen's research so that hopefully it will force the media to pressure the ITF into implementing more stringent testing. Otherwise, don't come here and bash players just because they won. If she didn't win, you probably wouldn't be here.

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    5. Here I was responding to your claim (the same ine as 'Ed'), that Sharapova can't play tennis, which on this blog is a claim often used to defend a suspect who thrashed the opponent: what are you talking about, she didn't play well at all, it's just the other one who lost the match.

      People like me are for cleaning up the sport, btw.

      And I came to this blog because of Nadal, not Serena, but in here case there is so much circumstantial evidence that there is no way she can be clean. She lies , and she lies because she cheats.

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  24. This Olympic performance isn't the first of it's kind this year. She crushed Sam Stosur at the FCC 1 & 1, and Stosur wasn't playing badly so much as had no more opportunity to play than Sharopova. What play she managed to get it was rather good. She simply couldn't beat Serena that day anymore than she could Andy Murray, and Serena even joked in her presser she felt like she could beat Roddick.

    At the time, I realized any denial she's doing something is willful ignorance. In January, she got her ass kicked by someone that shouldn't have been able to win games against her, and a few months later she made the world #5 look like a 12 year old.

    Notable mention regarding Wimbledon: Serena played almost all of her doubles matches in the 2nd week back to back with her singles without suffering any fatigue. Then she flew to the US and won another tournament.

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  25. In the 2004 Wimbledon final an in-her-prime Serena lost to a 16 year-old newcomer named Maria Sharapova. The score was 6-1, 6-4, as Williams was essentially hit off the court.

    Now, at the age of 31, Williams loses just one game(!) to the same player, who must be said to be now in her prime years. Sharapova would have had just as much chance if she had played on one leg. Williams is without doubt a far more more powerful player than she was 8 years ago. The score-line, and her manner of victory proves it. So what is said to explain this? "Talent"? "Hard work"? So Sharapova lacks in either of these? Clearly, the logic would suggest so - unless there is another explanation.

    Flojo, Ye Shiwen, Serena, and so it goes on. The dirty shameful secret in modern professional sport, that no commentators will talk honestly about, and the fans choose not to hear. It is truly the sporting establishment that has fled to the "panic room", from which they show no signs of emerging.

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    1. Richard: Just in case you don't know, Sharapova is 2:9 against Serena and has not beaten her since 2004. Moreover, Sharapova won most of her slams without facing a real competition. She is not the real deal. Only those who want to see her at that level, fantasize about it.
      Over the years, Serena has become heavier and stronger while sharapova only increased her screams decibel.
      Moreover players age differently. Anyone can see that serena can sustain that level of play for a long time if she wants to. She is still fresh since not having to deal with that stock of steroids called henin and skipping so many tournaments.

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    2. So Sharapova has declined since she was 16? Mr Ed, you gotta be in fairyland. But you are right about Serena getting heavier and stronger. I guess she will peak at about 70 - since her youth is clearly not her prime. (She will also be so big she could play doubles all by herself. Almost like now.)

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    3. If Sharapova has improved anything at all other than her screams and facial features, how come she won a slam at 16 years old and won just four at the age of 25 Even no name players have won slams. She won one slam every other year which makes her a total of 4 slams in 9 years. Yeah a totsl of 4 slams in 9 years after winning the first one at 17. So much for her improvement. At least I am nice enough to acknowledge that she has improved her scream patterns.

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  26. Honestly, we don't need to slander any specific players here. If you want to play elite tennis and go down as one of the greats, you have to dope.
    Federer was crushing his opposition from 2004-2007 and who questioned him then? They all said "beautiful tennis". Well to play that amount of matches in that period of time and never even break a sweat against other professionals like you...that's not normal.
    Djokovic has given many hints numerous times of Federer doping (leading to himself having to dope to win) by saying how he "changed" the way tennis was played, leading to him having to "up" his game, including murray.
    So indeed Serena may dope, but very likely that all the elite players do it. So what separates Serena from the other players are her natural athletic gifts, which is also enhanced by some PEDs...while the other top players do not have these gifts, and so have to dope to be somewhat to be competitive.
    I can assure you players like Navratilova, Graf and Henin have doped in the past. For example, Navratilova won 58 grand slam titles and 18 end of year championships and played till she was 50. She is 55 right now and her aged face makes her look like she is in her 80's. She of course ended up having cancer from the prolonged use, just like Armstrong. Why aren't they questioning them?

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    1. There must be some reason why 'nobody' questioned Federer then and all of a sudden they are questioning Nadal, Djokovic, Stosur, Serena. Those reasons are well documented on this site. Thank you for spending some time to go through the reasoning

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    2. Bolu, so you don't want to "slander specific players"? Just all of them. I like that argument. By suggesting that everyone dopes (including my mother and the Pope) it basically concedes that the usual suspects - Nadal, Serena, Stosur et al - most certainly are.

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    3. "If you want to play elite tennis and go down as one of the greats, you have to dope."

      In your opinion when did that become a necessity - in the Laver era?..the Connors era?...the Borg/McEnroe era?...the Lendl/Wilander era?...the Sampras/Becker/Edberg/Agassi era?...the Federer/Nadal era?

      Do you believe Borg doped his way to 11 majors? I don't. Do you believe Sampras doped his way to 14 majors? I don't. Borg and Sampras were the best of their eras. It's the other players taht had to dope. Graphite rackets and new strings (post-Borg) made tennis about the serve unless you're doped. Break serve without being broken, simple as that. It's about winning second serve points on both your serve and your return. If one wins more second serve points than his competitor he wins 9 out of 10 times. Sampras had the best first and second serves in the history of the game, as well as a rocket forehand and an adequate backhand. Plus he was mentally tough as hell. When his opponent got nervous and started missing first serves he feasted off their second serves, got a break, held serve and won the match.

      In any competition there is a winner and a loser. You can't point out one example in the history of the world where the guy who was winning started doping before he started losing. Doping was invented by the losers, not the winners. It's purely inherent that between two players one is better than the other or they are equal. The chances of being truly equal are very slim. In virtually every case one is better than the other. It's always the lesser player that resorts to doping.

      Nadal knows without doping he doesn't have the skills to be the best. He has the skills to compete, but not to be the best. Serena has the skills to be the best, but she doesn't have the work ethic. So she dopes to be the best. Sharapova has ball-striking skills and work ethic but, in general, her overall athleticism, footwork, serve motion and secondary tennis skills are sub-par. She'll lose to a doped up Serena virtually every time. Henin had tremendous skills but lacked the athleticism and power. So she doped. Djokovic has the skills to be one of the best, but to beat a doped up Nadal he needed more stamina. So he started doping. If you believe Djokovic only started doping last year then it wasn't to beat Federer in Grand Slams, it was to beat Nadal in Grand Slams. He had already beaten Federer in two GS and had given him one hell of a run in a US Open final and semifinal. Stosur doesn't have the skills to be in the top 50 without doping. Federer, while he may use EPO and HGH, obviously always had the skills to be the best on tour. He won a Wimbledon Junior's singles and double title. He made a USO Junior's final where he lost to a pretty damn good David Nalbandian. He also won "The Orange Bowl" as a junior and ended his junior career ranked number 1 in the world. He beat Sampras on Center Court at Wimbledon at the age of 19. The obvoius difference between Federer and Serena is that Federer stays in shape. Minus the ponytail and more leg and back bend on his service motion it would be impossible to tell the difference between that Federer and today's Federer, except that the younger version of Federer was a step quicker.

      Someone has to be the best, by definition. In 2004 in tennis it was Roger Federer. Nadal couldn't compete with that Roger Federer without resorting to doping. He could trouble him by being a leftie and being quite fast, but he wasn't going to beat him, especially in a Grand Slam. So he resorted to doping to fill in the gaps. Agassi resorted to doping to fill in fitness and strength gaps. Sampras had gaps but was able to win without filling them.

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    4. One doesn't have to dope to be the best only if he or she isn't the best to begin with, or in the case of Serena Williams isn't willing to supplement the best skills with being in the best shape she can be (like a true professional would). Prior to doping Nadal, Djokovic, Agassi and Stosur were in fantastic physical shape for what they had, but it wasn't enough to beat the best in the world.

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    5. I actually believe the decision to dope Nadal was made independently of any comparison with Federer, but just because his uncle made a decision that you can't be a top athlete without doping (and he doped himself as a soccer player, together with his teammates, didn't die of it, so he thought, this is the norm).

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    6. It is all about beliefs for you guys...lol
      Swisscheese40: All these historical ramblings to show what???If you said Federer had the skills to dominate and that only losers dope but at the same time acknowledge that Serena also has the skill set to dominate, why you are so obsessed with Serena? Why do you find justifications for Federer's doping? Do you think Federer almost never breathes heavily and never sweat after many hours of play just because he has skills? Does he have the skills to control his breathing and sweating patterns too? You forgot to mention that after Federer beat Sampras, he lost in the next round and was complaing about excessive fatigue. Where did this fatigue in the early rounds of Wimbledon (when they used to serve and volley) at such a young age go as he has more stamina now at 31 than most of the other players? You compare federer form to his younger years and you did so for serena. Are you implying that Serena tighs became bigger not because she gained weight but because she was taking steroids? If you are not blinded by your assumptions, you will realize that Serena of today is just proportionately a bigger size overall of young serena. Tighs, breasts, ass, shoulder have proportionately become bigger. Steroids make athletes lose their breast and we don't see that from serena. She gained weight as it happened to some athletes. Are you implying that Shaquille Oneal, Ron Artest and most of the basketball players took steroids to become bigger??? Most of the black athletes become bigger as they age and even bigger after they retire. Are you suggesting that they take steroids after retirement? If you follow all sports, you will realize how difficult it is for athletes to keep the same shape. It requires a complete dedication to do so. The normal tendency is that as people grow, they become bigger unless they actively lose weight. A bigger version of the young Serena who lifts weight will logically look the way she looks.
      Tennis athletes take steroids for endurance,and speed. Serena doesn't show any of these benefits. For a smaller Serena to be so powerful that people compare her to men, it is only normal that a much bigger Serena will be more powerful. The opposite wouldn't make sense.

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    7. I'm just going to let my post and your post sit side by side and let the readers decide which one of us knows what the hell he's talking about.

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  27. Sen, I love all the analysis you have done so far.

    But you claim you don't want to target any players, yet that's what you have done. Serena and Stosur in the women's tour, then Nadal in the men's tour.

    At least the top 10 in men's tennis dope, especially Federer. How else could he compete with Djokovic, Nadal and Murray. They play high speed tennis consistently for hours and throughout the year. His tennis is deceptive, in that people are tricked by the beauty and forget to use logic.

    I haven't seen you attack him once. All I'm saying is if you want to slander one player, then slander all.

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    2. Federer's tennis is 'deceptive' because 'he's the one in the top ten that dopes the most', yet people are duped. Good thing we have you and Eric Ed to point the obvious to us.

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  28. Federer is getting a bigger jaw/chin. He seems to be on HGH and maybe roids. If you look at the Olympic athletes faces you can clear see that most of them are on the same drugs but maybe different doses. In some faces it is more visible than others.

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    1. I don't see the bigger jaw.

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    2. I don't see the 'bigger' jaw either. Anyway, looks silly to say that they use the sam drug and that the dose can be evidenced by the jaw size

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    3. Honk Bonk Man, I am sure if you look hard enough you will think that everyone is getting a "bigger jaw/chin". Check the guy next to you in the queue some time. I am glad we got guys like you who can really see these things.

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    4. Federer has a huge neck and for someone so slim, it is unthinkable where he got that disproportinately huge neck from.

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    5. Yep, absolutely unthinkable :p
      What are your credentials in doping anyway?

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    6. Look at Federer's face. Now look at Michael Phelps' face. End of story.

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    7. Hmm, very interesting theory, Eric. Come to think of it, Elijah Wood (who played Frodo in the Lord of the Rings film trilogy) is even slimmer than Federer and he too had perceptive comments made by certain eagle-eyed observers about his disproportionately huge neck. I guess we must regretfully conclude that Wood too has been on performance-enhancing drugs for most of his life, despite not being an athlete.

      Apologies, Elijah, if you ever read this. But at least you have a sense of humour.

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    8. Some of the posts i'm reading here boggle the mind.

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    9. Come on people! Are you serious? I am not here to defend one player or another, but it is pretty obvious just by looking at someone's face to see some visible signs of HGH or roids use. Federer is a great player, but he could not win against another player that is doping, not at that level. Just compare some pictures of different athletes in different sports and you can find similar evidences of HGH or steroids use. There is no such thing as clean sports at the high level.

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    10. Honk Bonk, of course a great player can win against a doper, if he is much better to start with, and od course there is such think as clean sports at high level. And then there are the dopers, and then the super dopers.

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    11. I think this is meant to be ironic. :p

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  29. Curious development from the MMA world; Rory MacDonald (who has been the subject of steroid suspicion for a long time now) pulled out of his fight with BJ Penn. This comes just after both fighters agreed to participate in VADA testing (8 weeks of random blood and urine testing) for their fight.

    Obviously accidents can happen in training, but given the ongoing suspicions about MacDonald it's hard to not wonder about what else might be going on here.

    http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/8/5/3220937/rory-macdonald-withdraws-from-ufc-152-due-to-cut-wants-to-fight-b-j

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  30. We'll see in ten year's time if she's still alive. Griffith-Joyner died about 10 years after Seoul. Testing then was not as stringent as now. But many culprits still evade getting caught. Williams is definitely toying with tragedy.

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    1. I wonder if that's still the case - testing at least has shifted the doping paradigm a bit. Flo-Jo's records still stand, and she's not the only one, so in some regard the current stuff must be less powerful.

      Might be the better players can afford the doctors to make it all relatively safe.

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  31. Now, I remember. The things being mentioned in this forum are the very things initially observed about Emily Mauresmo: she looks like a man; and she plays like a man. It's not that people are actually dismissing Serena Williams as powerful, but the things that took place in between --being laid off because of "injury" and playing this way is just suspicious. The overall aura just reeks of hormonal changes.

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  32. Actually those comments about Mauresmo were homophobic and had nothing to do with her build or tennis.

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  33. Martina Hingis isn't "homophobic". Her comments about Mauresmo being "half a man" were related to Mauresmo's build.

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    1. Lindsay Davenport, after losing to Mauresmo at the Australian Open in three sets, commented to the press that at one point during the game, she thought that she was "playing a guy." This had no reference to Mauresmo's homosexuality but on Mauresmo's broad shoulders and power (The New York Time, February 1, 1999).

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  34. No, they weren't, and everyone in tennis knew it as soon as the words came out of her mouth.

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  35. There's a reason they only say it about gay women.

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  36. There was certainly plenty homophobia around some comments about Mauresmo. I think comments largely diminished over time though, as she become a "darling of the public" - she's a very likeable person really, and that personna probably swamped or hushed any residual bigotry.

    It's always an issue with "well-built" female athletes though. How much of it is drugs? It does seem they have a considerably larger transformative effect on the female body, where some of the muscle bulk is just incredible. The male ideal seems to be towards leaner, higher-stamina physiques - Djokovic being the extreme of that (he looks like a top Tour de France cyclist).

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  37. Federer is looking his age after playing a 4 1/2 hour match two days ago.

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  38. Anyone who says Federer's pills for his back = doping are crazy!

    THIS IS WHAT A 30 YEAR OLD BODY IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE!!

    No long bathroom breaks here - - just fighting and going down a champ!

    Check out the live commentary on tenniscrier.com

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    1. Fed couldn't dope enough for the olympics and this is why for the first time Murray destroyed him. Not that I think Murray is clean though.

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    2. Of course, had he won, that would be the best proof he's doping.
      This one was tougher, but you found an excellent solution

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    3. Federer was tired for two reasons:

      1. He played 4 matches in 5 days.
      2. The 19-17 match was like a tough 5-setter. It was longer than the 5-7 7-6 7-6 3-6 16-14 match against Andy Roddick!

      At Wimbledon, he played every other day and had 4 pretty easy matches (rounds 1-2, quartefinals, and semifinal). Even his 5 setter against Benneteau was nowhere near as tough as the match he played at the Olympics.

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    4. Federer's loss seems to indicate that he's NOT doping. I would guess that he has a losing record in matches over 4 hours. I will have to look that up.

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    5. Yes, here's a little message to all those here who feel Federer is doping. If he was doping he would be able to rebound after that SF marathon match, the way Djokovic and Nadal have rebounded so many times to come back and play a 5 hour final at slams. It was obvious today that Federer had nothing , absolutely zero left in the tank after the SF on Friday.

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    6. BTW I think Eric Ed is Boreman!

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    7. Lopi so by your reasoning, since Del Potro beat Djokovic, is he doping then?

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    8. No Eric Ed is not Boreman. Federer loss indicates that he didn't dope enough for the olympics not that he doesn't dope. And people have to remember that there is one less round in the Olympics and that aside the finals, the earlier rounds were best 2 out of 3 sets.
      Lopi, there is a difference between federer not doping enough for one tournament and Federer not doping for all the other tournaments.

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    9. How does that relate to my "reasoning"? Djokovic is clearly not the player he was during 2011 and up to and including the AO this year. His level has dropped dramatically. I'm not on his team so I don't know why that is but I do know he wasn't doping at this Olympics anywhere near last year if at all. I've always said Djokovic is a talented player but that he needed to "up" his game to beat Nadal and that he did. He truly humbled him. Maybe his doctors recommended he slow down. I don't know. But I didn't see the bronze medal match so I can't really comment on why Del Potro won. BTW maybe Del Potro is doping. Who knows?

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    10. All I'm saying is you said Federer did not win because he does not dope. So by similar reasoning, since Del Potro was in the same marathon match and won his bronze match, he dopes?

      We really cannot say. Just like you said, you are not on Djokovic's team...and neither are you on the team of the other players. So you cannot say for sure that a certain player dopes and the other doesn't.

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    11. And yet here you are in almost all your posts, implying Federer dopes, doing the exact same thing you are angry about others doing. Your hypocrisy is staggering.

      There is ample circumstantial evidence for Djokovic doping - check the archives.

      Does Federer dope? Maybe, maybe not. He is less clear-cut than most other players.

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    12. @Seeya, SPOT ON!

      bolu: "Federer has reached a point in his career where he has eased on the dope. He still dopes but at lower levels."

      Eric Ed: "Federer loss indicates that he didn't dope enough for the olympics not that he doesn't dope."

      I think people here are smart enough to draw their own conclusions.

      The "bolu" tactic: when all else fails, complain that the blog shouldn't be picking on particular players, and then proceed to pick on a certain player...three guesses who that player is. Something we haven't seen before, right?

      I think people here are smart enough to draw their own conclusions.

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    13. BDS: What is the "what else" that failed again???

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    14. Bolu, a few days ago, you wrote that all top 10 players dope, especially Federer.

      Now you want to appear as someone who, yes, still believes all top players dope, but we cannot say for sure.

      However, your main grudge seems to be against Federer, that is on record. It really 'pisses you off' that someone can think he's clean.

      Similar to Eric Ed, who showed up as a supposed fan of Serena, but doesn't miss too many opportunities to squeeze in some bs claim about Federer, you have a slightly different angle, but you also won't let go of Fed. That's why I concluded you are the same person. And some others have concluded you are Boreman.

      Your idea is, as we know, to water down the powerful effect of this blog on shedding some light on the doping practices of a few top players, the first one of which was, and is, Mr Rafael Nadal.
      Good luck

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    15. JMF:

      OK. Imagine you go to a site and you find that it regularly alleges that Roger Federer is a doper. You read the comments and find they are all convinced that Federer dopes and loudly proclaim it almost every day.

      Then you notice something strange. Although Federer isn't the only target, there is someone who never gets mentioned: Rafael Nadal. It doesn't take you long to realize that 90% of the users who comment are rabid Nadal fans!

      You notice that many of the "arguments" they use to convict Federer could be applied to their cherished idol Nadal, yet they never realize this. Instead they parade on and on with hearsay information and vicious circles which "prove" Federer dopes. Everything Federer does proves he is a doper: if he wins a match, if he loses a match, if he withdraws from a tournament saying he's injured, if he plays it. If he beats someone easily, if he loses to someone beneath his rank. Some also pray for the day that Federer gets caught, so his record is erased and Nadal can have the most slams.

      So, what do you do? I think you would point out to these rabid Nadal fans that their "logic" could easily be used against Rafael Nadal. EVEN IF you personally didn't believe Nadal doped.

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    16. Tavi,
      Let's go back to reality and a blog called Tennis has a steroid problem.
      Now, if I was a Nadal fan, I don't know exactly what I would do, but I would probably in the face of evidence understand that Nadal must be doping. I would then start writing that all players are doping anyway. I don't know if I would be as bold as some here to find parallels where none exist, who knows. Probably I would start writing that Feddy is a doper as well.
      If I had any economic interest in Nadal's success and if I had enough money, I would probably hire one or two consultants who would do all they can to defuse the quite damning allegations available on the site. Perhaps they would be using the same reasoning as some here.

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    17. Well, I'm not saying Federer is a doper. And I'm not saying he isn't, either. Simply that I do not have access to the super privileged information you obviously have that allows you to say that Tennis Player X MUST be doping. It's strange that it is only people on this blog who have access to this informational insight. I would think if it were REALLY THAT OBVIOUS that Player X is doping, then you would hear more of it from sports commenters and the testing agencies.

      Now, lack of comment from them is certainly not proof that Player X is clean. Don't misunderstand me here! Obviously there are always going to be the possibility that drug cheats stay years ahead of the testers' technology. Or I suppose that there is a conspiracy of silence, but I rather think that one is wheeled out a little too often to shore up your bad arguments.

      But anyway, I think it's fair to say the "evidence" is not as obvious as you want to believe. And I think if you actually tried to set down your arguments in logial format, you would probably find out that they are invalid.

      It does seem that you can manage to make everything fit your thesis that Rafa takes drugs. Why? Because you start from the premise that he takes drugs. But when that is also your conclusion, we have a vicious circle here.

      I'm sure you personally can come up with loads of "suspicious indicators" re Rafa. But if I were to make you look each one individually and ask you to tell me why this was relevant to your argument, and how it was proof, I don't think you could do it. Instead, you'd probably just point to OTHER indicators, which themselves suffer from the same problem.

      OK, another analogy: It's like you've spotted lots of "dots", and you think because there are so many, there must be a "line" between them joining them all together. But if you look at an individual "dot", there's no real proof that it belongs to the "line". Only if you presuppose the existence of the line!

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    18. hahaha JMF, you have too much imagination. But I have always thought Nadal was a doper, an all-timer one.

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    19. Tavi
      Sorry this is just not a fair representation of what is the case. We know from various confessions by dopers, that you cannot dope all year around. Thus you have wide inconsistencies when cycling down. This is the case for other players not Federer.

      Doping allows you to make incredible physical recoveries and increased fitness. Federer whilst very fit is nothing abnormal. Nadal played a 6 hour physically exhausting match on the Friday. Federer had an extra days rest and when they came back on Sunday, Nadal outlasted Federer. In the fifth it was Federer, who was exhausted. The Australian final was a very physical draining match.

      Nadal's game depends on his physical shape, which is unusual for someone in such a aerobic sport. His increase in size is linked to his performance. Federer looks the same as he has done since he was 18.

      Nadal has been linked to doping doctors. Federer has no link or rumours about him. Rumoured to be on Fuentes list.

      Nadal's game relies a lot on physical strength and the ability to muscle the ball a lot.

      There is a reason people suspect the likes of Lendl, Navratilova, Agassi, Serena and Nadal. Federer may be a doper, but he has none of the tell tale signs. You can go through virtually every list to indicate a doper and you can tick the box on certain players, hence the suspicion.

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    20. My comment is very fair! Most of these commenters have it as a religion that Rafa (and certain others) takes drugs. Their belief is unfalsifiable. There is nothing that could happen that would convince them otherwise. If I believe that Rafa is clean, all that is needed is a failed test to show I'm wrong. But for the people here who are convinced he is guilty, everything has to be explained in that light.

      Rafa wins easily: proof that he is on drugs.
      Rafa loses: he is cycling down, proof he is on drugs. Or he has received a "silent ban" --> proof he is on drugs.

      People here find a way to explain everything in context of "Rafa is on drugs". It was just ludicrous reading someone saying that Rafa threw the match to Rosol, because he had received a silent ban for being on drugs. Never mind that had Rafa received such a mythical ban, it would have made more sense to withdraw claiming injury rather than play and look a fool. But that's the kind of illogical practices that go around here, and when I see so many of them being sanctimonious about the good work this site does against drug cheats, I could practically vomit.

      If you go look down at one of "Swisscheese40"'s posts on this page, it's quite instructive. Swisscheese is confronted with a problem. S/he believes ardently that both Rafa and Serena are dopers. So s/he explains Rafa's withdrawal from the Olympics as yet more evidence he is doping. But oh no, Serena hasn't withdrawn! Perhaps one or both aren't actually doping?! We can't have that. How can we get around it to save our cherished religious beliefs from logical analysis? Oh, I know, let's say they ARE both on drugs, but Rafa's drugs "require more maintenance" than Serena's, so there was more of a chance he'd get caught, so that was why he wouldn't risk it but she would.

      It's things like that that gets this blog its bad reputation. Interestingly, in one of the other posts, I saw someone "predict" that, as we all know Rafa is faking his injury due to drugs, he will attend Toronto, and that will be proof. But it seems he won't play Toronto now. I wonder how that will be explained away. Oh, I know! The "silent ban" is still in operation! Gosh, why didn't I think of that.... -_-

      Sorry for the sarcasm, but this really does annoy me. It's all very well and fine to be concerned about the stringency or lack thereof of the drug testing regime, but most here use this site as a vehicle for their own...fannishness.

      It's just completely unfalsifiable. Rafa could sneeze, and that would be counted as proof of steroids or something. Because if you start from the assumption that he is on drugs, you're bound to find loads of stuff that "fits" your thesis. And every little bit of "circumstantial evidence" is judged not by its own merits but by everything that has gone before, and people lose sight of the fact that not a single bit is substantiated.

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    21. As for what you actually say here, some things.

      1. Inconsistencies - Federer has inconsistencies too. He'll lose to people ranked far below him when least expected. Now you could explain that as lack of concentration, distraction with his family life, problems with his back, even the mono he had. Or you could choose to say he's cycling down when he loses and up when he wins. But unless he's failed a drugs test, the latter interpretation is rather uncharitable. The same for Rafa. Rafa suffers from chronic knee tendinitis caused by excessive over practising for many many years and of course running a lot in matches.

      2. Knee tendinitis is something people don't seem to understand here. Either they expect it to be as severe as a broken leg - i.e. literally impossible to play on always. Or they think it's something minor that should have been got over quickly. It's neither, and as far as I know, it's chronic. I wish Rafa good luck with his fancy treatments, but really tendinitis is something you "manage" rather than "cure". Lots of rest, change habits, and it won't be so bad. Rafa has to a large extent changed his playing style, but not his practising style, plus the mere fact of playing at all is not good for his knees. Every time they start plagueing him again, they get worse. One year they had him crying on court in Hamburg. Another time he had to withdraw from WTF. Then came the awful 2009 year where he couldn't play Wimbledon. And now this year, when he was feeling pains even at the start of the clay season.

      3. Physical shape - Rafa is actually different to what he was several years ago. His team was advised to make him lose weight so it would be easier on his knees. His famous arms have a lot less muscle on them than they used to. So there hasn't been a steady "increase in size." And isn't "big muscles = steroid user" a kind of old fashioned diagnosis from the days of East Germany? If Rafa were doping, it would most likely be blood doping for stamina. We could also say that Roger's lack of muscles but consistency means he might be blood doping. Who knows? NO ONE here knows but everyone likes to pretend otherwise.

      4. Doping doctors - really now, what do you mean when you say "link"? Pretty tenuous, plus it's circumstantial evidence. It is by no means proof. But it's things like this that I mentioned above. It only becomes relevant if you believe in the existence of lots of little dots like it and one big fat line going through them...

      5. Stamina is an ambiguous concept. Rafa has a hell of a lot of short term stamina. He has a lot of energy every day. He can play 5 set matches. But he trains for that. In his practices, he trains for 5 set matches. (Hence the knee problem). But the disadvantage of that is (other than the knee problem!) it tires him out over the season. He gets both mentally and physically fatigued. Compare that to Roger who maybe can't last a 5 setter as well as he used to but is still going strong at the end of the season. Cycling down? Maybe. But MAYBE NOT. This is not a reliable indicator.

      6. On the subject of indicators, sure we could point to "dodgy" things about Roger. I'm sure his longetivity would convince a rabid Rafa fan that he was doping. Likewise, what you might say was his time off for mono, the rabid Rafa fan would say "SILENT BAN!!!" Or cycling down. Anyone can make a list of suspicious indicators. The important thing is not to get overwhelmed by them and to critically appreciate them individually and distantly. Look at each indicator on its own merits, not as part of a "collection of evidence" because the conclusion has already been presupposed.

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  39. In light of today’s blowout, I have a Wild Federer Theory, which is:

    Even if Federer is doping, let’s assume that the loses “so drastically” in certain finals to highlight that his opponent is doping. Today’s Olympic final could demonstrate this as could his “drubbings” by Nadal at the various French Opens. Once Federer assesses his opponent’s “doping level” he simply capitulates and takes a beating, on purpose, as in, “why bother?,” so as to highlight the “unusual” level of play of his “doping” opponent, in the hopes that others will see it and wonder, come here for more information, etc.

    Thoughts?

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    1. No, he wants to win. He must be disappointed
      What most people will conclude is that Federer was tired and Murray played extremely well, not that Murray is doping.

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    2. Federer would never throw an Olympic Gold Medal match to prove someone's doping. I conclude that Federer was tired AND Murray is doping!!! :)

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    3. Federer has reached a point in his career where he has eased on the dope. He still dopes but at lower levels. I will continue to say it...these players are all professionals and have played their whole lives!! It's impossible for one guy to dominate for 4 years straight from 2004-2007.

      Also, all the players in the top 10 hit forehands with speeds of above 85mph consistently. Also the best defenders in tennis are the top 4 male players in tennis. So why people continue to act like Federer is only a natural talent and does not dope really pisses me off. He plays much better defense than at least 95% of the rest of the tour, and yet only the other players dope? Just please spare me!

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    4. 85mph is nothing. Players like Rosol, Petzschner and others consistent crack the ball at 95+ mph. It's just that most of the time the ball doesn't go over the net or flies long. When it does land in like it did when Rosol was hitting 99mph winners against Nadal at Wimbledon, it makes you really wonder who ISN'T doping at some level.

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    5. Well, perhaps it's worth reminding some of you guys that it is Federer who never complained about the stringent testing, who said the sport needs more stringent testing, and who also, in 2008, I believe, suggested samples should be frozen for years and retested.
      I don't believe he doped 2004-2007, and then stopped in 2008, that just wouldn't make sense.
      So for me, Federer is an example of a clean athlete.
      If someone doesn't believe it, then at least we all agree that the only way to find out is to have a much better testing system in tennis.

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    6. This is a desperate attempt to justify the doping and cheating of others by saying they all do it. It's not true there are clean athletes out there and some of them are world class. A truly talented, hard working, technically gifted athlete can even beat a doper in the most physical of sports. A perfect example is the 4x100 metres relay.

      In Athens a clean British team with perfect technique on their handovers beat a doped up American team. If a clean team can beat a dirty one in something as purely physical as the 100 metres, then it shows it can be done. Not to mention a clean sprinter like Darren Campbell even in the doped age, could win several medals including an Olympic Silver in the 200 and Olympic Gold in the relay.

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    7. If I were a drug cheat, I'd probably cast myself as the Holy Saint of drug testers as well. If you know more testing probably isn't going to happen, it's pretty easy to call for it.

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    8. Well that's just not smart Tavi. It may never happen, but why take the risk? History shows quite the opposite. Drug cheats usually like to proclaim their sport is clean and no need for more stringent testing. Imagine you were stealing from your office. Even if you were 95% sure you would never be caught, you still wouldn't want to run the risk of advocating greater security.

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    9. Well, think of it the other way: if you were stealing from your office, would you whine about the security measures put in place to find out who was the office thief?

      Being a drugs cheat is and then whining about being tested and saying there's too much, that rather calls unfortuate attention on you. Especially if your logic of "Those who are pro-testing aren't drugs cheats" holds.

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    10. True. I guess people have different ways to try and escape the attention. Actions speak louder than words.

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    11. I'd say most of the words are just people being immature or well, probably just human. As a non-driver, I roll my eyes when I hear drivers whining about the very existence of speed cameras and traffic lights, that it's unfair, that they're being victimized. When these things are necessary for everyone's safety.

      It's probably the same with testing complaints. You know it's necessary, but if you're woken up at 6am to give a urine sample with some guy looking at you as you do it, it must be a bit hard to do it with a song in your heart and an appreciation for the importance of ensuring a clean sport.

      It's neither right nor mature to feel victimized or targeted, and get resentful about it. But it's still a pretty natural reaction and not overly suspicious.

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    12. LOL. I can tell you most driver breaks the speed limit on a fairly regular basis. Not crazily to put others in danger, but a 5mph or so over. They are angry cos we are going to get caught and fined.

      To complaing about doping is one thing. To say that it is too much when you have been tested 4 times a year. To say there is no point blood testing etc. Now that is going to far. You will find evidence for both. Thorpe was always wanted greater drugs testing and look at him.

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    13. It's probably more the having to provide 100% definite whereabouts for an hour for every day that's the greatest inconvenience. But you know, I still don't think there is any definite link between someone whining about drugs tests and being a cheat. You could certainly make a case that drugs cheats are less likely to whine and more likely to pretend to be whiter than white, as the saying goes.

      Was Thorpe guilty? I don't know much about him.

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    14. Enough evidence for me to suggest he was. Had higher levels of Testosterone than normal. L'equipe reported it. He was cleared, since it was ruled to be natural. Australia's top sprint coach caught with steroids just after Sydney. Quite fitting that he was sat next to Carl Lewis discussing the Olympics.

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    15. Thorpe was investigated for "abnormal" levels of testosterone, but he was never convicted of a violation.

      http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/31/sports/sp-worldswim31

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    16. Tavi: This is exactly what I told them. The players complain because they feel that the rules of availabilty and all that invade their privacy.
      If I were a drug cheat, i would never complain about drug testing because it would bring more attention upon me

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    17. Thorpe was the golden boy of swimming. The golden boy of Australia. Convicting him would have done tremendous damage to the sport. However, L'euipe are rarely wrong about doping matters. Thorpe was not found innocent. He got off on insufficient evidence. Again we know elite Australian coaches were carrying out doping plans in the national centre. Just, because it was swept under the cover does not change it.

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  40. Federer's time on court in singles matches:

    1st 6 rounds at Wimbledon played over 12 days: 12 hours, 9 minutes
    1st 5 rounds at the Olympics played over 6 days: 10 hours

    You can see why Federer was much more tired in this final.

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  41. Remember when Venus Williams was doing her sort of ballet when she was still winning at Wimbledon? That was at the height of her youth. This is still how Serena seems to be at this stage of her career. And she's 31 years old. And I'm perplexed: is she really getting better? She's really toying with -- and my gut feel is more like courting -- tragedy. Her pulmonary embolism I think is only the start of what could befall her.

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    1. yeah you may be right if you were right about the origin of the embolism. It was due to serena's foot being inactive too long in a cast. It is one of the causes of embolism. You can check it or make your own facts to feel happier

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  42. I believe Serena has the talent to succeed unjuiced, although she wouldn't be dishing out 6-0, 6-1 sets to top-five players.

    But she's lazy and doesn't want to put in the hard work and dedication required to maintain top fitness and conditioning year-round, and to improve those aspects of her game that can be refined even as a player ages (such as the placement and variation of her serve).

    She treats tennis as a sideline, rather than as her vocation. She's too proud and arrogant to accept losing, but enjoys being a celebrity too much to give up her free time to constant grueling training. So she takes a shortcut.

    It's sad, because it would be so much more meaningful if she committed herself to trying to win clean. But she would rather rack up as much hardware as she can and bathe in the adulation.

    Unfortunately, while people give out trophies for all sorts of things, no one gives you a trophy for being a good human being, so...

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    1. Why would she need to put in hard work when she could defeat all these players? Get the drift?

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    2. It depends. Is the goal to develop one's skills and potential to their very fullest, and to pit those skills against the best opponents in honorable contest? Or is it to kick ass?

      Clearly, Serena prefers to kick ass. More power to her, I guess. Just hope she doesn't whine when someone younger, bigger, stronger, and better juiced than her comes along and whups her ass in turn.

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    3. That's why I laugh when people call Serena the greatest player of all time. She is the only player in history who has been able to take long breaks and just waltz into a Slam and win it. The other players must be furious that they grind out the entire year and she can just show up and win the Slams.

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    4. Serena doesn't dope. Get over it. Besides, she is the greatest of all time...no contest...

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    5. LOL Eric Ed thinks Serena is 100% clear and that Fed is a 100% doper. Now thats funny

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    6. Eric Ed, you don't need to be Williams's apologist. What you need to do this is convince yourself that you're telling the truth.

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  43. I'm so glad that I missed the farce that was the Women's Gold Medal match. I knew Serena was going to roll all over Sharapova when I saw her crush Azarenka 6-1, 6-2 in the semis.

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  44. Justin Gatlin just did 9.82 in the 100m qualis ....... that's only a gnat's testicle less than Ben Johnson did in 88, when he was oozing steroids like an East German swimmer. Another from the Trevor Graham dopefactory.

    Bolt did 9.87 while basicalling slowing to a jog for the last 30 metres.

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    1. Victor Conte said in his last interview that "some country" got his blue printing for doping and it is following exactly how he described. Any guesses?

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  45. What is Gatlin doing at the Olympics anyway? Didn't he test positive twice?

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    1. Yes, he served a four-year ban from 2006 until 2010.

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    2. Yes but this Olympics has the most stringent testing ever. No? LOL.

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    3. Gatlin produced 9.79 in the final. Can't be bothered checking, but isn't that faster than when he was doped to the eyeballs?

      Never mind, move along, nothing to see here.

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    4. He ran a 9.85 in Athens 2004 to win the gold.

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    5. To put it further into perspective, Gatlin ran his personal best today.

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    6. I actually heard that the tracks were fast at the london Olympics and that is why many athletes run consistently below 10 seconds during the qualification rounds and many of them run their career best at this London Olympics

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  46. Federer may have been gassed after his semi but Murray's performance makes the eyes pop. In a matter of weeks he has reinvented himself as a player of crushing power. Not only could he get to every ball in the final, he could hit winners from virtually anywhere in the court. He bludgeoned Federer. This is the guy that only a few weeks ago got dumped early from Queens, who we have seen regularly struggle against inferior players who attack his typically pushing game. Well, Andy's one guy you can't push around anymore. Why, he increasingly resembles players like Nadal (in the slams), Djokovic (last year) - who incidentally had no answer to the new Andy in their semi - and he makes the old Andy we have come to know and love as but the ill-tempered grafter of distant memory. Another top player transformed. It was almost a Ye Shiwen (or Justin Gaitlin?) performance.

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    1. The same could be said of Federer even getting to slam semifinals and finals, MS1000 finals and now Olympic finals on a consistent basis at 30. Federer has the stamina to win against Del Potro 19-17 in the third set. Meanwhile Del Potro, the guy who has infamous nosebleeds and comes from a long line of convicted Argentine tennis dopers, nearly 7 years younger, is gassed in these long matches. How come no one remembers, the biggest convicted doper in the history of tennis, Petr Korda, doesn't resemble Nadal or some other big strong player, but had the same build as the likes of Federer, Rosol and other lanky players.

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    2. I think due to the fact that the games are organized in England, they let Murray get away with it. His energy level was just insane. I think he used maximum dosage. Even Djokovic didn't see it coming

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    3. This is a great message board and there is clearly a lot of doping in top tier sport, but please lets stop with the stupid allegations. There was nothing surprising about this Olympics at all.

      Federer was exhausted from all his play and the last match against Del Potro killed him.You do realise that he was on court more in the 6 days of the Olympics than the the first 12 days of Wimbledon. At Wimbledon he had a straight forward semi-final, but here he had a killer. He gave everything he had and had no legs in the final. Anyone with common sense should have known Murray would win.

      As for Murray nothing has changed from Wimbledon. He had the crowd on his side, he played slightly more aggressive and won. Murray has always been a better grass court player than Djokovic and no surprise he beat him.

      If anything this Olympics just give further proof that Federer is not doping. He has had a natural and expected decline.

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    4. Exactly! Federer's first and second round matches at Wimbledon were like warmup sessions. So was his quarterfinal against Youzhny. And the semi vs Djokovic was by far the least physical Grand Slam match he's ever played against him.

      But at the Olympics, he had the tough opener against Falla and 3 consecutive days of play culminating with a match that was essentially at 3-6 7-6 7-5 5-7 7-5 match.

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    5. Good point about Petr Korda. Most people here (one assumes there are at least a few couch potatos here) seem to think:
      big muscles --> DOPER QED.

      Athletes taking performance enhancing drugs now are much more likely to use blood doping. Which means people without a muscly build are equally suspect, and those who do have muscles are not automatically guilty.

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    6. Federer still performs at a high level but he isn't getting better as he ages. Other players are. With Murray it appears he may be becoming a much more powerful player than he has been even recently so in his career. For Federer there was no mid-stream transformation in his game or his physical style. There isn't much about these two that is comparable.

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    7. Murray's transformation happened a long time ago. He has not changed anything physically in the last months or so. He has just gone for his shots rather than being passive. Murray from 08 Wimbledon onwards was a big strong player, but a passive one. Murray is 6,3 and very muscular. Truth be told he did not even play that well in the final. He played a good solid match. It was Federer's legs being gone, which made his shots look better.

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  47. Keep in mind that everything about Serena needs to be viewed thru a certain lens. In her case everything begins and ends with the "panic room" incident. Someone in her house claimed to see someone "prowling around the grounds" on her security camera and called 911. In all likelihood the "prowler" was wearing khaki's and a polo shirt and carrying a duffel bag or backpack. I seriously doubt an ITF drug testing agent was wearing a mask or trying to pry open windows. The person was almost certainly standing at the front door and ringing the doorbell, most likely with a car parked in her driveway. It's absurd to believe anything else. Sen has provided ITF documents showing that no sample was collected from Serena after the police sorted out the "misunderstanding." Serena Williams lost all benefit of the doubt at that point.

    So now as unbelievable as the foot injury story was before, it's even more dubious now. Consider the following:

    Here Serena claims she was told she had to have the surgery on her "lacerated tendon":

    "Asked how she could fit her swollen, painful feet into high heels three days before surgery, Williams said, "I was bummed about wearing the Band-Aid at my party, you know me, but there were six stitches under there, so I didn't want those to show. I love heels, I'm a sucker for heels, so if I have to get the (surgical) procedure anyway, at that point, the doctor told me I needed to do it, so I took the pictures with those shoes, then wore flats the rest of the night. I couldn't have worn heels the whole night."

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/2010-09-01-serena-williams-reveals_N.htm

    Here she claims she didn't have to have the surgery:

    "I saw a specialist in New York and had an MRI, and he said I had a tendon that was torn. He said I didn't necessarily have to fix it, but I'd have a droopy toe the rest of my life. I thought it over and decided it was better to have the surgical procedure, for my career and for my life."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=5522325

    Oddly enough, here her agent claims she didn't even cut the foot on glass at all, but sustained a "deep laceration" that required surgery:

    "She didn't step on glass," said Williams' agent and spokesperson, Jill Smoller. "So I don't know where that came from. Her foot was cut. There was a deep laceration. She had surgery Thursday in Los Angeles ... to repair a deep laceration on top of her foot."

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/07/22/serena-williams-playing-a-dangerous-game-with-foot-injury/

    First of all, it came from Serena herself. Secondly, if she didn't step on glass how did she cut the bottoms of both feet? And if it was such a deep laceration how on earth did she play a match the next night?

    But here is the real kicker. She hosted a pre-ESPY's party at her house two days before her surgery. Let me know if you notice any limping whatsoever.

    http://www.zimbio.com/watch/LgdPBgnjIJQ/Serena+Williams+Aces+Jousts+Kevin+Frazier/Entertainment+Tonight

    You're telling me she was a day away from a surgery that was going to land her in a cast and walking boot for the next six months? Please. She's as injured as I am.

    Her agent claims that Serena doesn't like to talk about injuries because they don't want people to think they're making excuses? Can anyone take comments like that seriously? It's more likely they don't want to talk about it because they're making it all up.

    No one, including Serena or her agent, seems to know why, or even if, she needed surgery. Yet we're supposed to believe it was ultimately an injury that required two surgeries and at least 6 months of a cast and walking boot. Yet she's not even limping before the surgery.

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    1. Really, they should have insisted she be tested the very next day. Both for the purpose of clean sport, AND for her reputation, as the panic room thing doesn't help. I don't understand why they didn't go back the following morning. Incidentally, though, I do remember when Roger Federer missed his drugs test, he apparently called up to schedule one for the next day, and they refused and waited a month.

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    2. Swisscheese40: Please stop your nonsense and come down on Earth. There could be multiple causes for the injury that you claim she didn't sustain. An injury could happen without serena having to give the exact cause of it. After all she did have a cast on for many months which proves that she had surgeries. Unless you think she had a fake cast just to play game with her haters.
      The panic room incident as I stated is nothing that proves that Serena is doping. It is just news designed to harm serena's image by appealing to her massive number of haters. If the testers wanted to test serena, they could go back anytime. They don't have to make it look like Serena didn't want to get tested.
      Why don't they just go and test Serena on a different date?
      If Serena had the power to refuse the testing, why would she said she went to hide in a panic room for which she came out from and still met the tester?
      If the ITF wanted to protect Serena as some on this site suggest, why not give her a hint about the out of competition testing date just to fill out the paper work?
      If serena's reaction of running to hide in a panic room was not genuine, why did she need to do and then come to meet the tester later. Why they don't just tell the tester that she went somewhere and that her phone was off?
      If anyone can give any type of excuses for an out of competition testing and get away with it, what makes you think any other athlete can't give the same excuses when they face a tester?
      you can't just throw any accusation out there without thinking about its ramifications.

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  48. cont.

    It's reasonable to believe she never had a lacerated tendon and never had the surgery she claims. She took so much flack for the band-aid she was wearing that she stepped it up and started wearing a walking boot in public to hush the naysayers. So if she never had surgery, never wore a cast and was never really immobilized then doesn't the story about what caused her pulmonary embolism become even more bizarre, if not impossible to believe?

    EPO is said to improve stamina by about 5-10%. So someone is average shape can get in good shape and someone in good shape can get in great shape and someone in great shape can get in world-class shape. Someone can take EPO without being able to run around like Nadal. It all depends on what kind of shape they're in to begin with.

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    1. Dwain Chambers was on a cocktail of drugs and it was interesting to see his improvements. Now Chambers is a world class talent. He developed this talent and became a world class sprinter. He legitimately could run around 9.97. Now I doubt he could afford the best stuff out there(he was paying around 20k) a year, but it was fairly decent. Anyway the drugs made him about 0.1 faster. He could now run 9.87. This is a big jump. However, he says he actually became worse due to the cramps, injuries, pain and inconsistency.

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    2. So what's your point? That Serena actually took a six-month break to evade out-of-competition testing? Is that what you're trying to tell us?

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    3. freemystic: That is what happens to a person mind when that person has been out of touch with reality for such a long time.
      Swisscheese40: Nobody is comparing Serena and Nadal speed and endurance. If the competition was about speed and endurance, Serena would not rank in the top 1000 on the woman side. If that is all the doping can give her, so you have not followed Serena thoughout her career.
      Do you know what a cast is? Do you think it is a pant you can just remove and wear whenever you want to? your delusions start to take the best of you. That is why I always tell you to stop believe illogical things. Overtime they will confuse you because you want so badly to be right. Relax
      Moreover, Why do you chose to believe that she had pulmonary embolism and not the preceding events? Because it helps you to be in a better "belief mode"?

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    4. freemystic,

      No. That's not my point at all. My point is that Serena has told everyone in the world that she had a pulmonary embolism because blood clots formed as a result of being in a cast/walking boot and being inactive. If she was never in a cast then it's awfully hard to believe the reason she is giving for her embolism. Do you know anyone that sliced a tendon in their foot or ankle so bad it required two surgeries and at least 10 weeks in a cast, but that person was able to play a tennis match after the accident and walk around in high heels without any limp whatsoever the day before the surgery?

      I think she made up her injury because she knew she was done after Wimbledon that year. She knew, for whatever reason, she wasn't playing in the US Open because of what happened the year before. If she knew she wasn't playing in the Open she had no desire to play in Canada or Cincy either. She doesn't need the money. She doesn't care about her ranking. Hell she even pulled out of Cincy to go to Kim Kardashian's wedding last year. That's how much the smaller tournaments mean to her. She would play 3 tournaments a year if she could - FO, Wimbledon and the USO. But the new WTA rules don't allow her to just skip MS events for no good reason. She's also on record showing her disdain for that rule. She had to have a "legitimate" reason to skip those events. So she made up the bullshit about the foot injury. At first she tried wearing the laughable band-aid. She got called out for that. She started getting questions like "well if your feet are so sore why are you able to wear heels?" and "why aren't you limping?" "why did you play a match after your injury? "why were you playing around and jousting at your party?" Do you see any signs at all that she had an injury serious enough to warrant being put in a cast? No.

      Blood clots are one of the possible side effects of blood doping. If your best friend gets blood clots and you know for a fact he or she was bed-ridden or immobilized in a cast you don't think twice about why it happened.

      When it happens to a professional athlete highly suspected of being on PED's that made up the story about how she was injured in the first place, and then that same person is on record complaining about drug testing and ultimately concocts a story to avoid a test it's virtually impossible to give that person the benefit of the doubt.

      In regards to the "panic room" incident Sen's emails show that the ITF, if the incident never happened, would have responded the same way that WADA and USADA responded. Instead they mentioned "privacy." How could simply stating the event never occurred invade Serena's privacy? Instead the state that they don't disclose information until a violation has occurred. Missed tests aren't a violation until the 3rd in 18 months.

      That's my opinion. You can believe it or not. Or you can choose to believe the guy that below states that womens' 100 and 200 meter athletes naturally add muscle to their frames.

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    5. Swisscheese40:
      Haven't you seen Serena multiple times in a cast??? If so, why do you keep saying there is no cast??? How can you suppress facts and chose to make your own. Why would you go to the extent of thinking that Serena would wear a fake cast which effect may lead to one member of the body being smaller than the other and require physiotherapy after its removal.
      So Serena can't say that she has knee issues or any other excuse, She has to give the foot injury excuse and carry it on to wear a cast??? Are you kidding me?

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  49. But... I have worked out with weight lifting for many years. I have never used steroids. But everyone into bodybuilding (not my particular case) knows how difficult it is to gain lean muscle mass, and how aerobic or endurance exercises hinders muscle growth. When I was gaining weight all I did was heavy weight lifting, eating and sleeping. And everyone thought I was on steroids. That's also how I eventually found out that pretty much everyone that had a reasonably muscular physique, had done at least small amounts of steroids. Because all of them wanted to know what I was taking, and had discourses about how it was impossible to gain muscle like I was doing naturally. So eventually they confessed, or snitched on their friends. My point is, by personal experience in the world of fitness and fightings sports and strength sports, if I see a GUY with a physique equivalent to Serena's, my bet would be he had done steroids.

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  50. Its real simple. Women never produce enough testosterone to look like Serena. Never. No supliment that is legal...nothing exist that is legal can add that amount of muscle mass to a female and even few males could achieve her muscle mass naturally. I have a feeling she will not live a long healthy life.

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    1. It just shows that you don't watch a lot of sports. Go and have a look at the track and fields 100 and 200 meters athletes. have a look at maria mutola pics and the black female athletes.
      What do you mean by never anyway.

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    2. LOL, if I were you, I would not point to track and field athletes to make my point considering that doping is running rampant in that sport.

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    3. running rampant? Since when have you been watching it. It is not because some athletes are caught for doping to increase their performance that they are all doping. Moreover their muscles have nothing to do with the doping. Their form is the same even though some of them dope all year long. Blacks have a higher level of testosterone and it probably makes them bulky quicker than whites who may need synthetic testosterone to get to that level. Are you saying that anyone who is bulky is doping?

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